Tuesday, March 29, 2016

Honors Alumni Book Club - April 2016 - Payback, Margaret Atwood



This blog entry is basically for the people who will be reading Margaret Atwood’s PAYBACK, Debt and the Shadow Side of Wealth (a fun book) for the first session of the UNM Honors Alumni Book Club. On April 10, 2016.  Ambrosia Ortiz y Prentice invited me to pick a book and lead the discussion.  Choosing a book was difficult. I write fiction and, for pleasure at least, mainly read fiction. But I decided against a novel.  The novels I like best are long and it did not seem like a good idea to start the book club with a long book. I almost chose THE CROSSING by Cormac McCarthy because it is in the top five books I’ve read in the past 15 or 20 years and it is partly set in New Mexico (the Deming/Lordsburg area) and partly in Mexico.  But then I remembered that the end of the book was so emotionally wrenching that I was essentially incapacitated for days after reading it.  It did not seem like a good choice for perky intellectual conversation. So I was in a jam.  I wanted to choose something short, intellectually stimulating and sort of fun. I admit that the concept of debt did not jump immediately to mind.  Wracking my brain, however, I recalled a really fascinating interview with Margaret Atwood. The interview had been about debt and she had written a book on the subject. I got the book and found it short, smart, thought-provoking, and witty. Kind of fun. If anybody wants to listen to Margaret Atwood lecture on the subject, Here's a link:

Margaret Atwood, one hour lecture on Payback

So I decided to go with it for the book club.

As I read the book I found memories coming unbidden to mind and I wonder what sort of 
 memories and reflections that other readers will encounter while reading and thinking about the book.  I am an anthropologist and always bring the anthropological outlook to my reading. 

The structure of the book is basically exploratory. Following MA’s lead we  approach a puzzling complex of cultural beliefs, customs, and institutions that connect to the central notion of debt as we now use it to organize relationships in our society (North American).  It is not an essay, lacking that clean central thesis and march of evidence that we all find so comforting.  Instead there is a sequence.   We look at the origin and history of the fundamentals that make modern debt possible.  Then we look at the way the moral dimension of debt makes it legally and emotionally powerful.  Next MA explores the literary utility of debt as a plot engine in powerful stories. Consciously or unconsciously, in titling the next chapter The Shadow Side, MA invokes the sinister words of Dick Cheney to enumerate the many ways that the complex of lending, borrowing, collecting, foreclosing, and recording can and is turned to evil ends.  She explores revenge as a way of balancing accounts.  Finally, in the last chapter, she tests the utility of using debt as a metaphor for a pathway out of the terrible destruction of the world ecology that human ingenuity, greed, short-sightedness and ignorance has created.

Here are some questions and issues that arose for me in my various readings of the book and reflections on it:

·         What is the utility and what are the drawbacks of this structure compared to the essay, fiction, etc.?

·         What are your personal beliefs regarding debt and how did you attain them?  I refer to both sides of the debt equation – borrowing and lending.

·         What did you enjoy most about the book? I really enjoyed MA's wit even though I often thought she was showing off.

·         What was most powerful about the book?  What examples, images, points?

·         What do you believe is immoral as regards borrowing, lending, repaying, collecting, etc?

·         How can a person maintain virtue as a lender?   As a debtor?

·         How can debt be best used in the interest of good in our society?

·         To what extent are we in the grip of cultural institutions and beliefs that we have learned and that are ambient in our society?  Do we have any “wiggle room?”

·         In several instances MA refers to forgiveness, forgiving debt, wiping the slate clean, etc.  She even quotes the Lord’s Prayer and speculates as to what would have been the result if President Bush, after the attacks of 911, had reacted differently, rejecting vengeance and embracing forgiveness.  What sort of options does the various kinds of debt forgiveness open up?

·         Can we change our beliefs about debt?

       Musical Interlude:


lyrics to the song

And Considering the kinds of things that most of us have to PAYBACK

·         What is the utility of the different kinds of debt to the society at large:
o   Home mortgage debt
o   Credit card debt
o   Student loan debt
o   Payday loan debt
o   Pledge debt (pawn)

·         If debt is a relationship mediated by a contract known as a loan, then what constitutes a healthy relationship?

·         What is it that the FED does and how does it affect the various kinds of debt?

·         What do you think of extending the utility of the debt concept via metaphor as did Atwood in her last chapter? – Do we owe a debt to nature in view of our utilization/decimation of the natural world?
·         Does “Scrooge Nouveau” remind you of anybody?

·         In my view, Atwood uses the Christmas Carole story projected into the present/future to “get off some zingers” ie.
o   Nature is an expert in Cost-Benefit Analysis… as for debts she collects in the long run.
o   Maybe a pandemic plague is part of Nature’s cost-benefit analysis
o   People began substituting something called ‘market’ for God, attributing the same characteristics to it, all knowingness, always-rightness, the ability to make ‘corrections.’
o   All wealth comes from nature, without nature there wouldn’t be any economics
o   In a crisis or impending crisis: You can protect yourself, give up and party, help others, blame others, bear witness, or go about your life.
o   It’s folly to become dependent on just a few crops
o   With futures, it’s all probability
o   Saving a species from extinction has a date stamp on it just like debt and mortal life.

Most of these seem both true. They are also witty.  Is this a good way for MA to get her points across?  What are the advantages and disadvantages?